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spacejunkie
[ Posts : 2 ]
[Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 19:57]


I just got caught up in this because this guy thay are always coming down on is a personal freind and feel this sort of stuff should not be tolerated anywhere.... What do you think Administrator?






Osgiliath
[ Posts : 75 ] [Post Date: 26-Dec-2004 07:39]

what if i am a little girl? hmm u a peddo or sumfin??



Vladimier Requeim
[ Posts : 107 ] [Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 03:25]

peddo? wtf?



Executor Astaroth
[ Posts : 3 ] [Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 03:28]

I think he's trying to call you a pedophile. I think.



Osgiliath
[ Posts : 75 ] [Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 08:08]

hit the hammer on the nail...JK



Blotus
[ Posts : 26 ] [Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 13:55]

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ect... ect... ect... stop crying. your like little girls...
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Vlad you seriously need to get your facts straight.. Who's complaining? YOU.. Which part of the human race complains a lot (stereotypically)? LiTtLe GiRlS.. So who's the "little girls"?.. YOU.

Not only are you a pedophile, you're also stupid.
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Osgiliath
[ Posts : 75 ] [Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 13:58]

LOLZ, poor Vlad...you getting beatin in-game and in arguments...is losing hard? cause u make it look REAL easy!


Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 27-Dec-2004 21:04]

Actions taken.
Justice
[ Posts : 15 ]
[Post Date: 28-Dec-2004 00:05]

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Osgiliath
[ Posts : 4 ]
[Post Date: 28-Dec-2004 12:10]

honestly, it wasnt even serious...and wat did i do? i suggested he was a peddo...n it was light hearted...hence i write lol or or JK after it...geez, n wat did kalidine do either? im really confused...:\
Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 28-Dec-2004 15:18]

From rulew: "Delta Quadrant: Empires game is designed to be played by people of all ages and backgrounds. Users are expected to treat others with respect and use only appropriate language in any contact with other players"

I may not understand some of your "jargon", but calling someone pedo... its not acceptable in our opinion, even if you are joking. Some player will consider it offending even in a joking forme.
Osgiliath
[ Posts : 4 ]
[Post Date: 30-Dec-2004 08:46]

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From rulew: "Delta Quadrant: Empires game is designed to be played by people of all ages and backgrounds. Users are expected to treat others with respect and use only appropriate language in any contact with other players"

I may not understand some of your "jargon", but calling someone pedo... its not acceptable in our opinion, even if you are joking. Some player will consider it offending even in a joking forme.


"jargon"? LOL. Point taken, but I think it's a case of if the person who is being slandered could ask for the others to stop, not someone else run off and tell the admins...that's a little childish
ruckus
[ Posts : 7 ]
[Post Date: 30-Dec-2004 16:45]

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From rulew: "Delta Quadrant: Empires game is designed to be played by people of all ages and backgrounds. Users are expected to treat others with respect and use only appropriate language in any contact with other players"

I may not understand some of your "jargon", but calling someone pedo... its not acceptable in our opinion, even if you are joking. Some player will consider it offending even in a joking forme.


"jargon"? LOL. Point taken, but I think it's a case of if the person who is being slandered could ask for the others to stop, not someone else run off and tell the admins...that's a little childish


I agree 100% that it was childish, but I also wonder.. where there other ulterior motives involved? Listen to my logic and tell me where I'm wrong.. the punishment too was very harsh.. considering where I was and what I was doing / could do.

Sure, the Game Rules are there on the login screen, but do you really expect people to go there and read them? I didn't notice that it was there until after I got booted and searched for the game rule that I had supposedly violated (which is no longer a supposition because I found out AFTR I violated it that it was a game rule NOT to offend others, etc). It would help if you had a link to the Game rules on the Homepage, instead of other links that don't even work, such as the News and the FAQs.

Sure I should've been booted, but why not others? *Note to admin: I'm not calling for other people to be booted.. I'm making a statement, pointing out a fact* ~~ I was the strongest Fagur empire in the strongest alliance (and at THAT time, the strongest empire IN that alliance).. and I got booted as a result of what? - The complaint of an enemy of my alliance. This seems rather weird eh?

Thirdly, it would've been more fair if you had given ALL of us a warning instead of booting me and warning the others (this is what made me suspicion what I said above). There was atleast one other person who said the same thing as me, but that person who was at that time not very strong, got ONLY a warning. I, who WAS strong at that time, however, get booted.

Fourthly, it's a game guys, and not only that, it's an online game. I understand the reason for the rules, and I respect them (I didn't in this case as I didn't KNOW about them), but this is going overboard with it. Do you really expect people to obey rules on an online game?? and one that's not even known very well??.. If I was sincerely wanting to break game rules, I would be able to do so and rather easily.. and sure you could block me (i think?) but how much more could you do?.. I was at a point in the game where I could lay back and relax with the confidence that no one would be able to attack me and live easily, and then the next day I find out that I have to start all over again?... gee thanks.. I really thought of DQ as a great game as it didn't require too much micromanagement, and was a small enough gaming community that I would be able to know a majority of the people.... but this experience has sure put a sourness in my mouth..

What can I say now? Goodbye?.. I don't mean the "good" part of it.. Farewell??.. I hope you DONT fare well.. Adios amigos?.. psh.. aint no friend I got here.. See you later?.. I don't think so.. Have fun gaming?.. I don't think you will.. ...
Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 30-Dec-2004 17:11]

I'm sorry you feel that way. But offending someone is not right. And yes you are right, most player do not read rules.
ruckus
[ Posts : 7 ]
[Post Date: 30-Dec-2004 17:15]

Right and Wrong is a matter of opinion, not fact. You called the forum Politics. In politics these 'mud-slingings' happen...

To prove that right and wrong are a matter of opinion, consider the case of lying vs kidding. Most people view lying as wrong and kidding as okay. When you come down to it, they both mean the same thing, and I think both of them are wrong.
Startracker
[ Posts : 43 ]
[Post Date: 01-Jan-2005 07:59]

i am with you, the booting of the largest fagur player in this game went too far, whilst the game is excelent its not the script that needs heavy modifying...its the management, im sorry to offend yas but not even warning him b4 u booted him is just STUPID! and for what, if Vlad took it seriously he could have sed sumthing could he not?
Justice
[ Posts : 15 ]
[Post Date: 03-Jan-2005 12:27]

shouldn't that be not matter of size ???

u can't come and say oops, i brake a rule, but i didn't knew it, so its not that bad ... u should have read them before, plus, i know NO single online game in which that kind of language is allowed and i played quite some dozen ... so don't blame others for being childish, in this childish manner ... just take it and learn ... and btw ... this is their world .. they DEFINETLY decide whats right and wrong in here !!!
Startracker
[ Posts : 43 ]
[Post Date: 05-Jan-2005 12:53]

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... and btw ... this is their world .. they DEFINETLY decide whats right and wrong in here !!!


obviously...
ruckus
[ Posts : 7 ]
[Post Date: 07-Jan-2005 06:30]

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shouldn't that be not matter of size ???

u can't come and say oops, i brake a rule, but i didn't knew it, so its not that bad ... u should have read them before, plus, i know NO single online game in which that kind of language is allowed and i played quite some dozen ... so don't blame others for being childish, in this childish manner ... just take it and learn ... and btw ... this is their world .. they DEFINETLY decide whats right and wrong in here !!!


I'm not sure what the first part of the post means..

But about the rest :-
I'm sorry for coming and saying oops.. I only felt extremely frustrated and irritated about what happened. I realize now that I should've bottled it up and kept it inside me, instead of expressing what I felt was rather wrong (in hope that in future it wouldn't happen again).

I'm sorry I didn't read the rules.. I'm not perfect like other people..

I'm sorry for blaming others for being childish.. from now on I'll just ignore childishness - oh wait.. I'm not even playing here anymore.

"in this childish manner".. anything but. If you're going to call me childish, please include the quote that was childish.

"take it and learn".. I sure did

"this is their world.. they DEFINETLY decide whats right and wrong in here !!!" I guess this is right, but still there was some hope for change.
Startracker
[ Posts : 43 ]
[Post Date: 09-Jan-2005 06:05]

ahh, dude, if ya quit now it just looks like da admins broke ya spirit...if you dont think u did anything wrong...y u quit?
Green
[ Posts : 1005 ]
[Post Date: 09-Jan-2005 14:24]

Let me put my 2 cents - now I talk as "human, just human" - not as admin, ok ?

From my point of view:

If player violated any rule (no matter did he/she read it or not), he/she must be punished, because no punishment - no rules, no rules - anarchy. If player ignore punishment (i.e repeat rules violation) he/she can be banned forever. And no matter if he/she is the biggest player in the game or similar - the rules are rules for all, even us.

Now, this case:
One player started flame - no matter what was the cause. Until flame posts was in rules limits - no actions was performed - because this IS THE GAME, only GAME and nothing more - and player`s conflicts is normal.
One of players passed limits - I do not want to say, that word "pedophil" is vulgar, this is medical term, but in _THIS_ context it was outrage. Player was punished, but not banned. So, I think, that incident is exhausted. Point.
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