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Emperor L
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[Post Date: 31-Aug-2008 15:14]

Is it possible at the top, where it shows the path to the current page, such as Home > Buildings to include the current page, right now its not shown.

Basicaly so its like this forum at the top, and includes the current page.

Also, is it possible to make the current page name a link also, I know that has little purpose, but in IE7 you can middle click to open the link in a new tab, and if for any reason you want to open the same page in a tab, it makes it much eaiser

Same with the in game forums would be good. Like when replying and you want to go back and check the thread for something, you could just middle click the page at the top, and it will open a new tab with it, instead of having to open new window and try and find it again.



Emperor L
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[Post Date: 31-Aug-2008 16:31]

Bombardment:

Bombardment involves fleets from one empire bombarding a planet in an attempt to destroy another empires colony. Bombardment can only be initiated by a fleet with ships equipped with bombs. To start bombardment the fleet must be given the command to bombard the planet. The battle is split into two separate attacks that happen simultaneously.

The fleet will first be attacked by any fleets in the system owned by the defending empire, and if the attacking fleet survives will next attack orbital defences, and finally any other orbital buildings.

At the same time as the orbital battle, the attacking fleet will also drop bombs over the planet. These will firstly destroy ground based defences, and then all other ground based buildings, population and troops.

If during the battle all population and troops from the defending empire are destroyed, the planet will be lost and revert to an unoccupied planet. Its buildings will no longer participate in the battle.

If during the battle all attacking ships with bombardment capability are lost, before the planet is cleared, then the bombing stage will end, and the bombardment will fail.

In either case, if any part of both the defending and attacking fleet survive, the fleets will continue to battle until one side is destroyed or retreats.



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Emperor L
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[Post Date: 31-Aug-2008 16:58]

Invasion:

Invasion involves a fleet from one empire trying to capture a planet from another. Invasion can only be initiated by a fleet that has transports. To start the invasion the fleet must be given the command to invade the planet. The battle is split into two separate stages, first the orbital battle and then the ground based battle.

The attacking fleet will first be intercepted by any fleets in the system owned by the defending empire, and if the attacking fleet survives will next attack orbital defences. Until the attacking fleet and orbital defences are cleared, the transports can not safely land, and remain part of the fleet, and will take damage along with all other ships in the fleet.

Once the orbital defences are cleared, the transports will land and drop troops onto the planets surface. The planets population will then join the planets troops as a militia, and fight back against the invaders. This will continue until the troops from one side are destroyed.

If the troops and population of the defending planet are destroyed, the invasion will be a success and the planet will be captured by the attacker. Any remaining buildings and some science points will also be captured.

If the troops from the attacking empire are destroyed, the invasion will fail and the planet will remain under the control of the defending empire.

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Emperor L
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[Post Date: 31-Aug-2008 19:06]

Also, here is a bit extra for the top of the battles page:

Battles form a major part of Delta Quadrant: Horizons. Empires must fight their rivals for glory and supremacy, and to claim their position as the greatest empire in the galaxy.

Battles are rarely decided in a single turn, they can last for many turns, depending on the size and strength of the forces involved. During a battle empires can bring in reinforcements, reorganise their fleets and change strategies. Fleets can even retreat from battle if necessary.

Battles in Delta Quadrant: Horizons are split into three main categories: Space Battles, Bombardment and Invasion.

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Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 02-Sep-2008 09:47]

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Is it possible at the top, where it shows the path to the current page, such as Home > Buildings to include the current page, right now its not shown.

Basicaly so its like this forum at the top, and includes the current page.

Also, is it possible to make the current page name a link also, I know that has little purpose, but in IE7 you can middle click to open the link in a new tab, and if for any reason you want to open the same page in a tab, it makes it much eaiser

Same with the in game forums would be good. Like when replying and you want to go back and check the thread for something, you could just middle click the page at the top, and it will open a new tab with it, instead of having to open new window and try and find it again.



Yes, it is. I'll add it later.

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Bombardment, Invasion, Battles descriptions
Done.

Also added stats for ship classes, but will arrange them later. Quite busy last days
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Emperor L
[ Posts : 1237 ]
[Post Date: 02-Sep-2008 17:14]

Ok, whats needed next? What do you want for the other pages such as:

Help:

Any ideas?

Buildings:

Maybe a description of builing types such as framing, military etc?

Ship Components:

What should go here?

Galaxies:

Is this a list of all galaxies (TG, Virgo etc) or more about things in the galaxy, as in how things work, and BH, WH etc?

Stars:

List of star classes, and description of the difference. Does this affect anything in DQ:H, like krong make more energy or BH power etc in DQ:E.

Planets:

Maybe a description of planet classes, sizes, some information about guardians, or will those be a separate page? Also the table of sizes and things...

Do gas giants and asteroids have any purpose in DQ:H? I mean like DQ:E fagur and krong can use them.

Top of Tech Tree page:

Does this need text, or is it just for the tree? Maybe a short description about the tree or something?
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Maverick
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[Post Date: 02-Sep-2008 19:21]

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Help: Any ideas?
A small general description of the game and what can be found in this encyclopedia.

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Buildings: Maybe a description of builing types such as framing, military etc?
Here a general description is needed. How they are build, use maintenance, what types they can be etc. Don't think that description of types is needed.

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Ship Components: What should go here?
Here should be a description of components in general and how they can be used for ship designs. BTW: We need to describe formations somewhere.

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Galaxies: Is this a list of all galaxies (TG, Virgo etc) or more about things in the galaxy, as in how things work, and BH, WH etc?
Its about how galaxy map is structured. Something about different galaxies in game and that you can have separate empires in different galaxies.

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Stars: List of star classes, and description of the difference. Does this affect anything in DQ:H, like krong make more energy or BH power etc in DQ:E.
Stars can be taken from DQ:E guid. I'll do it myself and make appropriate changes. Then you'll add something more, if needed.

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Planets: Maybe a description of planet classes, sizes, some information about guardians, or will those be a separate page? Also the table of sizes and things... Do gas giants and asteroids have any purpose in DQ:H? I mean like DQ:E fagur and krong can use them.
Planets description will be taken from DQ:E guide also. I'll make all changes and you'll review it. In DQ:H asteroids and gas giant cannot be used at all. Maybe in future will find something for them.

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Top of Tech Tree page: Does this need text, or is it just for the tree? Maybe a short description about the tree or something?
No description is needed. Just something like: "Following is The Big List"

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Emperor L
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[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 01:24]

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Here a general description is needed. How they are build, use maintenance, what types they can be etc. Don't think that description of types is needed.


Ok, so do you want some screens? Maybe like DQ:E has with a screen and things marked for what things are? This is kind of what I meant with the 'Game Screens' section, but it may be better to include all information in the right section of the guide...

So, on here could have a screen showing the planets screen, and mark the build menu, queue and maybe some other things. Only problem is though, that if updates are made the screens will get out of date and need replacing, so maybe its best to do this when the game is complete (maybe at beta?).

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Here should be a description of components in general and how they can be used for ship designs. BTW: We need to describe formations somewhere.


Ok, not much can say about components though...see the new guide layout idea below, maybe this works better?

Also, maybe the formations could come in battles section, under new page ' Battle Tactics' or something?

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Its about how galaxy map is structured. Something about different galaxies in game and that you can have separate empires in different galaxies.


Ok, I had idea for structure for guide. So far each section seems to be different, and it will be a bit confusing I think.

Maybe something like this could work, although it may require a bit of moving things about:

Home

Galaxy
~Stars
~Planets

Buildings (include descrition of buildings, and how to build).
~Ground
~Orbital

Ships (describe ships and ship builder).
~ Ship Classes (make ship class a sub section to this main ship page).
~ Ship Components (merge all components into 1 page, and make it subsection to ship page).

Tech
~ Tech tree

Battles (descriibe battle types as now, and include informations about relations.
~ Battle Tactics
~ Battle Reports



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Stars: List of star classes, and description of the difference. Does this affect anything in DQ:H, like krong make more energy or BH power etc in DQ:E.
Stars can be taken from DQ:E guid. I'll do it myself and make appropriate changes. Then you'll add something more, if needed.

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Planets: Maybe a description of planet classes, sizes, some information about guardians, or will those be a separate page? Also the table of sizes and things... Do gas giants and asteroids have any purpose in DQ:H? I mean like DQ:E fagur and krong can use them.
Planets description will be taken from DQ:E guide also. I'll make all changes and you'll review it. In DQ:H asteroids and gas giant cannot be used at all. Maybe in future will find something for them.

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Top of Tech Tree page: Does this need text, or is it just for the tree? Maybe a short description about the tree or something?
No description is needed. Just something like: "Following is The Big List"


Ok
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Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 13:39]

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Ok, so do you want some screens? Maybe like DQ:E has with a screen and things marked for what things are? This is kind of what I meant with the 'Game Screens' section, but it may be better to include all information in the right section of the guide...

So, on here could have a screen showing the planets screen, and mark the build menu, queue and maybe some other things. Only problem is though, that if updates are made the screens will get out of date and need replacing, so maybe its best to do this when the game is complete (maybe at beta?).
I prefer having screens in Tutorials only. All other pages will have some thematic pictures (like ship classes) later.

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Also, maybe the formations could come in battles section, under new page ' Battle Tactics' or something?
yes, good idea.

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Ok, I had idea for structure for guide. So far each section seems to be different, and it will be a bit confusing I think.

Maybe something like this could work, although it may require a bit of moving things about:

Home

Galaxy
~Stars
~Planets

Buildings (include descrition of buildings, and how to build).
~Ground
~Orbital

Ships (describe ships and ship builder).
~ Ship Classes (make ship class a sub section to this main ship page).
~ Ship Components (merge all components into 1 page, and make it subsection to ship page).

Tech
~ Tech tree

Battles (descriibe battle types as now, and include informations about relations.
~ Battle Tactics
~ Battle Reports

Ok. Lets try it this way.

Maverick
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[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 13:39]

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Ok, so do you want some screens? Maybe like DQ:E has with a screen and things marked for what things are? This is kind of what I meant with the 'Game Screens' section, but it may be better to include all information in the right section of the guide...

So, on here could have a screen showing the planets screen, and mark the build menu, queue and maybe some other things. Only problem is though, that if updates are made the screens will get out of date and need replacing, so maybe its best to do this when the game is complete (maybe at beta?).
I prefer having screens in Tutorials only. All other pages will have some thematic pictures (like ship classes) later.

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Also, maybe the formations could come in battles section, under new page ' Battle Tactics' or something?
yes, good idea.

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Ok, I had idea for structure for guide. So far each section seems to be different, and it will be a bit confusing I think.

Maybe something like this could work, although it may require a bit of moving things about:

Home

Galaxy
~Stars
~Planets

Buildings (include descrition of buildings, and how to build).
~Ground
~Orbital

Ships (describe ships and ship builder).
~ Ship Classes (make ship class a sub section to this main ship page).
~ Ship Components (merge all components into 1 page, and make it subsection to ship page).

Tech
~ Tech tree

Battles (descriibe battle types as now, and include informations about relations.
~ Battle Tactics
~ Battle Reports

Ok. Lets try it this way.

Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 13:39]

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Ok, so do you want some screens? Maybe like DQ:E has with a screen and things marked for what things are? This is kind of what I meant with the 'Game Screens' section, but it may be better to include all information in the right section of the guide...

So, on here could have a screen showing the planets screen, and mark the build menu, queue and maybe some other things. Only problem is though, that if updates are made the screens will get out of date and need replacing, so maybe its best to do this when the game is complete (maybe at beta?).
I prefer having screens in Tutorials only. All other pages will have some thematic pictures (like ship classes) later.

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Also, maybe the formations could come in battles section, under new page ' Battle Tactics' or something?
yes, good idea.

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Ok, I had idea for structure for guide. So far each section seems to be different, and it will be a bit confusing I think.

Maybe something like this could work, although it may require a bit of moving things about:

Home

Galaxy
~Stars
~Planets

Buildings (include descrition of buildings, and how to build).
~Ground
~Orbital

Ships (describe ships and ship builder).
~ Ship Classes (make ship class a sub section to this main ship page).
~ Ship Components (merge all components into 1 page, and make it subsection to ship page).

Tech
~ Tech tree

Battles (descriibe battle types as now, and include informations about relations.
~ Battle Tactics
~ Battle Reports

Ok. Lets try it this way.

Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 16:41]

Ok. Did some work on encyclopaedia.
Emperor L
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[Post Date: 03-Sep-2008 21:00]

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Ok. Did some work on encyclopaedia.


It looks good

Just a few things, the tick on the menu is a bit strange, I though it was for hiding and unhiding sections or something at first

Maybe have a marker like > or something, or even is it possible to have like a highlight and bold over current page. Maybe highlight the current section, so if for example you are viewing a page in 'Buildings' section, then that will be highlighted, along with all sub sections. Maybe then mark the actual page a different color.

So, if your on 'Ground Buildings' page, then 'Buildings' and 'Orbital Buildings' would be color 1, and 'Ground Buildings' color 2...

Not sure how easy that is to do though...

Also, would it be better if ship components all be a single page? So each follows the previous equipment. Their is not too much text or things on these pages, so it wont be too long I dont think...not sure...

And few little things:

On the planets page it says 'Heavy gravity', and it sort of sounds wrong. Maybe say strong or high gravity.

The planets sub classes each repeat the same description, maybe merge these into one and show all images, but only have description once.

Also, guardian planets have the same description as plagic planets in the guide

I think it looks good though

Maverick
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[Post Date: 04-Sep-2008 10:56]

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Just a few things, the tick on the menu is a bit strange, I though it was for hiding and unhiding sections or something at first
I'll change the image to not so confusing one

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Maybe have a marker like > or something, or even is it possible to have like a highlight and bold over current page. Maybe highlight the current section, so if for example you are viewing a page in 'Buildings' section, then that will be highlighted, along with all sub sections. Maybe then mark the actual page a different color.

So, if your on 'Ground Buildings' page, then 'Buildings' and 'Orbital Buildings' would be color 1, and 'Ground Buildings' color 2...

Not sure how easy that is to do though...
Well, it not so easy, but I'll do as much as possible to mark current section.

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Also, would it be better if ship components all be a single page? So each follows the previous equipment. Their is not too much text or things on these pages, so it wont be too long I dont think...not sure...
There are 37 equipment now. I think it will be quite a big list. But I'll put them in one list as ground buildings are.

And few little things:

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On the planets page it says 'Heavy gravity', and it sort of sounds wrong. Maybe say strong or high gravity.
In MOO2 game manual it says Heavy-G . If you think is not right
(English is not my native language ) I could change it to High gravity as we have Hg symbol in game.

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The planets sub classes each repeat the same description, maybe merge these into one and show all images, but only have description once.
Yes I know. Could you please add different descriptions for them. We don't have sub-classes in DQ:E

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Also, guardian planets have the same description as plagic planets in the guide
Will fix it

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I think it looks good though
Thanks.


Emperor L
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[Post Date: 04-Sep-2008 12:22]

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In MOO2 game manual it says Heavy-G . If you think is not right
(English is not my native language ) I could change it to High gravity as we have Hg symbol in game


Its not so much wrong in language, it makes sence. It probably is fine, it just don't sound right. Objects are heavy because of the effect of gravity, but gravity itself is not heavy. Or thats how I think it is...So even though the sentance makes sence, its more 'wrong' in like how science works. But not sure. Probably don't matter though

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Yes I know. Could you please add different descriptions for them. We don't have sub-classes in DQ:E


Ok, I will write some things later today

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