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Disrupter
[ Posts : 458 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 02:15]

The current battlesystem has some huge glitches/horrible things about it.

I think that this seriously needs to be addressed better then it is. Im not talking about tactics or formations or that crap, im talking about straight up fights are horribly one sided. If you have more ships, you automatically win, no matter what, and that should not be the case, unless, pound for pound, the enemy ships are the same as yours and more numerous.

As it is right now, its so grossly off, that im not going to keep playing the galaxy, especially if K keeps camping my drive yards. Theres no point to this right now at all.

We need to actually test the system, not just find a useful (possibly buggy) aspect and rape everyone else.
Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 11:06]

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The current battlesystem has some huge glitches/horrible things about it.

I think that this seriously needs to be addressed better then it is. Im not talking about tactics or formations or that crap, im talking about straight up fights are horribly one sided. If you have more ships, you automatically win, no matter what, and that should not be the case, unless, pound for pound, the enemy ships are the same as yours and more numerous.

As it is right now, its so grossly off, that im not going to keep playing the galaxy, especially if K keeps camping my drive yards. Theres no point to this right now at all.

We need to actually test the system, not just find a useful (possibly buggy) aspect and rape everyone else.
A much bigger fleet will always win in this kind of game, whatever battle system will be and that what can't really change. If you have concrete suggestions don't hesitate to write them in discussion forum.

In future please use small fleets about 30 ships in total. Agree on a location and test it. I did a mistake and warped all K ships, but this shouldn't stop us from testing. I even can restore some amounts of ships for your fleets. We need testing and balancing. If you have no ships (this is for all of us) I can make some directly in data base. Once more we need testing.

Regards.
Disrupter
[ Posts : 458 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 14:45]

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A much bigger fleet will always win in this kind of game, whatever battle system will be and that what can't really change. If you have concrete suggestions don't hesitate to write them in discussion forum.

In future please use small fleets about 30 ships in total. Agree on a location and test it. I did a mistake and warped all K ships, but this shouldn't stop us from testing. I even can restore some amounts of ships for your fleets. We need testing and balancing. If you have no ships (this is for all of us) I can make some directly in data base. Once more we need testing.

Regards.


Its hard to test things out when, A: Someone has a fleet of over 500 ships wandering about; and B: Someone is also camping my drive worlds, picking off my ships one at a time as they come off the lines.
Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 15:07]

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A much bigger fleet will always win in this kind of game, whatever battle system will be and that what can't really change. If you have concrete suggestions don't hesitate to write them in discussion forum.

In future please use small fleets about 30 ships in total. Agree on a location and test it. I did a mistake and warped all K ships, but this shouldn't stop us from testing. I even can restore some amounts of ships for your fleets. We need testing and balancing. If you have no ships (this is for all of us) I can make some directly in data base. Once more we need testing.

Regards.


Its hard to test things out when, A: Someone has a fleet of over 500 ships wandering about; and B: Someone is also camping my drive worlds, picking off my ships one at a time as they come off the lines.
Don't build them there. Name a system where you have a fleet and say which ship designs you want in it and I'll give you 100 ships.

Disrupter
[ Posts : 458 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 15:13]

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Its hard to test things out when, A: Someone has a fleet of over 500 ships wandering about; and B: Someone is also camping my drive worlds, picking off my ships one at a time as they come off the lines.
Don't build them there. Name a system where you have a fleet and say which ship designs you want in it and I'll give you 100 ships.
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K seems to have stopped camping for now, but 100 slayers at Roouwui would be nice. By the way, Slayers are cruisers, so dont get upset K i didnt call in 100 titans lol. (i doubt maverick would do that anyways)
Maverick
[ Posts : 1331 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 16:42]

Done. You should have 100 Slayers in Task Force Alpha fleet.

K, if you need specific ships for testing let me know. Just agree on a system and test it

PS: Weapons and torpedoes damages where decreased to make battles longer. See DQ:H Encyclopedia.
Emperor L
[ Posts : 1237 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:29]

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Done. You should have 100 Slayers in Task Force Alpha fleet.

K, if you need specific ships for testing let me know. Just agree on a system and test it

PS: Weapons and torpedoes damages where decreased to make battles longer. See DQ:H Encyclopedia.


All my ships are headed for Nebu, could you jump them all and then give disrupter 100 titans at Nebu?

I want to see how my fleet fairs against them, and then after the battle lots should be lost, and it should be more even. Just 1 thing though, disrupter dont flee the titans from nebu, because they are their for that fight. So if they all die, they die




Disrupter
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[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:37]

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All my ships are headed for Nebu, could you jump them all and then give disrupter 100 titans at Nebu?

I want to see how my fleet fairs against them, and then after the battle lots should be lost, and it should be more even. Just 1 thing though, disrupter dont flee the titans from nebu, because they are their for that fight. So if they all die, they die




You have over 500 ships, why should anyone just throw titans at you. They wont win. Stop focusing on huge fleet engagements, Maverick wants us to use small fleets and small empires.
Emperor L
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[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:38]

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All my ships are headed for Nebu, could you jump them all and then give disrupter 100 titans at Nebu?

I want to see how my fleet fairs against them, and then after the battle lots should be lost, and it should be more even. Just 1 thing though, disrupter dont flee the titans from nebu, because they are their for that fight. So if they all die, they die




You have over 500 ships, why should anyone just throw titans at you. They wont win. Stop focusing on huge fleet engagements, Maverick wants us to use small fleets and small empires.


Yeah, I know. But it will destroy lots of ships, and even it out a bit. I have lots just sitting around, and cant use them...so one big battle would use them up

Also I have too many ships, so cant organise them to fleets because it takes so long...so, I cant really make small fleets because finding ships in same star is hard in the huge list...


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Disrupter
[ Posts : 458 ]
[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:43]

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Yeah, I know. But it will destroy lots of ships, and even it out a bit. I have lots just sitting around, and cant use them...so one big battle would use them up


Well thats what you get for warmongering. Dont make us suffer because you built too many ships. Ask maverick to kill them all lol.
Maverick
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[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:47]

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Also I have too many ships, so cant organise them to fleets because it takes so long...so, I cant really make small fleets because finding ships in same star is hard in the huge list...
You have a new feature in fleets screen.

I'll prepare a huge battle for you, but it will be tomorrow. And move this discussion out of bug forums please
Emperor L
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[Post Date: 28-Jul-2008 18:50]

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Yeah, I know. But it will destroy lots of ships, and even it out a bit. I have lots just sitting around, and cant use them...so one big battle would use them up


Well thats what you get for warmongering. Dont make us suffer because you built too many ships. Ask maverick to kill them all lol.


Well, I can use them, but no one likes that

I have enough to send probably 30 ships to every star I have...but I cant be bothered to do that...and their is no way to organise it anyway because its so huge...

BTW, I am using less than 10000 money per turn on fleet maintenance, I still have 42000 income a turn.

Ok, I have 100 planets, but with even 20 I could make and suport a fleet this size, maybe even bigger. So although my fleet is huge, its totaly possible in a normal round.